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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-21494</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 01:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-16992&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

You can&#039;t accept men are sexually abused because of your insecurity. You had to reference &quot;dicks&quot; in your comment because you feel emasculated by the very concept of sexual abuse of men. Go to therapy. Stay away from SA survivors and work on yourself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-16992">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t accept men are sexually abused because of your insecurity. You had to reference &#8220;dicks&#8221; in your comment because you feel emasculated by the very concept of sexual abuse of men. Go to therapy. Stay away from SA survivors and work on yourself.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-21493</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 01:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Grandma: &quot;Women get raped by men.&quot;

Officer: &quot;You misunderstood what happened.&quot;

Mom: &quot;I never did that!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grandma: &#8220;Women get raped by men.&#8221;</p>
<p>Officer: &#8220;You misunderstood what happened.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mom: &#8220;I never did that!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Shirley Davis		</title>
		<link>https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-16999</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shirley Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2022 12:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-16992&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not an expert on how men feel and that was not the purpose of the piece. The purpose was to try and raise awareness that men can be victims of domestic abuse just as well as men and how badly society treats men. Thank you for your comment. It was much appreciated. Shirley]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-16992">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not an expert on how men feel and that was not the purpose of the piece. The purpose was to try and raise awareness that men can be victims of domestic abuse just as well as men and how badly society treats men. Thank you for your comment. It was much appreciated. Shirley</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2022 01:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shirley - I’m guessing this article is focused on sexual abuse as the source of cPTSD symptoms, but there I would guess that my fellow “dicks” would disagree. 
I’m in my early fifties and had done a pretty good job of screwing up the next generation before even knowing the concept of cPTSD. 
Have you ever been to a little league game?  If not you should go some time. Watch the dads. Plenty of negative commentary on their son’s performance. 
For me, it was being the bottom of the pecking order at a small parochial school. If described it to my therapists as “having 17 brothers and sisters”. Nothing builds self esteem like your parents blaming you for doing something that resulted in you getting abused by your peers on the playground. 
Please remember surveys are biased whether we like it or not. They are not. The most harmed do not answer and don’t even show up in the numbers. For those who do answer, more than likely their answer is biased towards, “it was not so bad, I deserved a good kick in the ass, put me back online, taught me to suck it up buttercup”.
I’m trying very hard to not adopt an opinion of “yup, another woman who thinks they know everything about the world of “dicks”.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shirley &#8211; I’m guessing this article is focused on sexual abuse as the source of cPTSD symptoms, but there I would guess that my fellow “dicks” would disagree.<br />
I’m in my early fifties and had done a pretty good job of screwing up the next generation before even knowing the concept of cPTSD.<br />
Have you ever been to a little league game?  If not you should go some time. Watch the dads. Plenty of negative commentary on their son’s performance.<br />
For me, it was being the bottom of the pecking order at a small parochial school. If described it to my therapists as “having 17 brothers and sisters”. Nothing builds self esteem like your parents blaming you for doing something that resulted in you getting abused by your peers on the playground.<br />
Please remember surveys are biased whether we like it or not. They are not. The most harmed do not answer and don’t even show up in the numbers. For those who do answer, more than likely their answer is biased towards, “it was not so bad, I deserved a good kick in the ass, put me back online, taught me to suck it up buttercup”.<br />
I’m trying very hard to not adopt an opinion of “yup, another woman who thinks they know everything about the world of “dicks”.</p>
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		By: Kelli Palfy		</title>
		<link>https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-14515</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelli Palfy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2022 00:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-14510&quot;&gt;RT&lt;/a&gt;.

RT my book is specifically designed to educate psychologists and support male survivors. Men Too: Unspoken Truths About Male Sexual Abuse...available on Amazon or anywhere else books are sold!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-14510">RT</a>.</p>
<p>RT my book is specifically designed to educate psychologists and support male survivors. Men Too: Unspoken Truths About Male Sexual Abuse&#8230;available on Amazon or anywhere else books are sold!</p>
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		By: RT		</title>
		<link>https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-14510</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 21:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-14503&quot;&gt;Dr. Kelli Palfy&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Kelli
I have marked his name down and will look for the book. 

In fact, I will request it for my staff library in the hopes that the female counselors that I work with read it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-14503">Dr. Kelli Palfy</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Kelli<br />
I have marked his name down and will look for the book. </p>
<p>In fact, I will request it for my staff library in the hopes that the female counselors that I work with read it.</p>
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		By: Dr. Kelli Palfy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Kelli Palfy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 14:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr. Robert Marshall is an educator, pastor and male survivor leading a group called Echoes in the Chicago area. I know he is planning on releasing a book and documentary soon and is planning to do a US tour...in case anyone is in the area and wanting to be part of his men&#039;s groups...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Robert Marshall is an educator, pastor and male survivor leading a group called Echoes in the Chicago area. I know he is planning on releasing a book and documentary soon and is planning to do a US tour&#8230;in case anyone is in the area and wanting to be part of his men&#8217;s groups&#8230;</p>
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		By: Dr. Kelli Palfy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Kelli Palfy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 14:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-3526&quot;&gt;Shirley Davis&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry Shirley I just saw this...yes lets connect kellipalfypsychology@gmail.com is my email address....I&#039;d love to hear from you...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-3526">Shirley Davis</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry Shirley I just saw this&#8230;yes lets connect <a href="mailto:kellipalfypsychology@gmail.com">kellipalfypsychology@gmail.com</a> is my email address&#8230;.I&#8217;d love to hear from you&#8230;</p>
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		By: Shirley Davis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shirley Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2022 12:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-14489&quot;&gt;RT&lt;/a&gt;.

I have a brother who has faced many of the things you mentioned in your comment. That&#039;s why I know about the suffering so many men go through but are not heard. It is a shame on our society that we ignore or demonize men expressing themselves and getting help. I hope your life is good in the future. Caring. Shirley]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cptsdfoundation.org/2019/10/31/complex-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-cptsd-and-men-the-ignored-problem/#comment-14489">RT</a>.</p>
<p>I have a brother who has faced many of the things you mentioned in your comment. That&#8217;s why I know about the suffering so many men go through but are not heard. It is a shame on our society that we ignore or demonize men expressing themselves and getting help. I hope your life is good in the future. Caring. Shirley</p>
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		By: RT		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2022 22:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just shy of my 62nd birthday and still struggling with cptsd and related comorbidities. 

I went through my childhood and youth seeing my sister, also a victim, listened to, getting support, recieving therapy while I recieved none of those. I had no voice, no worth. I attempted suicide a number of times. I struggled with substance abuse. I can not trust anyone. 

The few times that I brought up (generaly, not my own) male victimhood, I was attacked by angry women. Told that all violence is perpetrated by men. I had statistics thrown at me, told that all male victims become perpetrators, shamed for trying to say that men and boys can be vulnerable to abuse, etc etc. 

Even women in a peace-based martial arts club pushed me out for commenting on a billboard that said &quot;stop all male  violence toward women&quot; because noon wanted to hear that abuse can be perpetrated by anyone of any gender or orientation, and that violence takes many forms.  I just don&#039;t try anymore, to prevent further victimization.

Even while working in social services (a female dominated industry) I heard these ideas spoken by female colleagues.
Time and time again convicted male offenders were put on my caseload, simply because I am a man. I was Triggered over and over, unable to speak of it. Still don&#039;t have a voice because if I disclose, I will be marked as a predator. 

Many times as an adult I tried to get support. For a long time there was just one male survivors group, with a waiting list so long that there was no point. And expensive. And because it was geared to offenders I did not feel safe. 

Despite longtime treatment with a stack of 3 antidepressants my anxiety and depression got to the point that I could not work and I needed a psychiatric referral from my doctor. (I needed it 50+ years ago!)

So I am glad that you, a woman, has written this article. I hope that more women are awakened to the actual reality. I am an egalitarian by nature, but despite the struggle for equality, I still see double standards and myths carried forward by well meaning feminists. Pointing these out is very dangerous. 

So it must be a woman reporting this to women, as no male will be heard. Thank you for your work]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just shy of my 62nd birthday and still struggling with cptsd and related comorbidities. </p>
<p>I went through my childhood and youth seeing my sister, also a victim, listened to, getting support, recieving therapy while I recieved none of those. I had no voice, no worth. I attempted suicide a number of times. I struggled with substance abuse. I can not trust anyone. </p>
<p>The few times that I brought up (generaly, not my own) male victimhood, I was attacked by angry women. Told that all violence is perpetrated by men. I had statistics thrown at me, told that all male victims become perpetrators, shamed for trying to say that men and boys can be vulnerable to abuse, etc etc. </p>
<p>Even women in a peace-based martial arts club pushed me out for commenting on a billboard that said &#8220;stop all male  violence toward women&#8221; because noon wanted to hear that abuse can be perpetrated by anyone of any gender or orientation, and that violence takes many forms.  I just don&#8217;t try anymore, to prevent further victimization.</p>
<p>Even while working in social services (a female dominated industry) I heard these ideas spoken by female colleagues.<br />
Time and time again convicted male offenders were put on my caseload, simply because I am a man. I was Triggered over and over, unable to speak of it. Still don&#8217;t have a voice because if I disclose, I will be marked as a predator. </p>
<p>Many times as an adult I tried to get support. For a long time there was just one male survivors group, with a waiting list so long that there was no point. And expensive. And because it was geared to offenders I did not feel safe. </p>
<p>Despite longtime treatment with a stack of 3 antidepressants my anxiety and depression got to the point that I could not work and I needed a psychiatric referral from my doctor. (I needed it 50+ years ago!)</p>
<p>So I am glad that you, a woman, has written this article. I hope that more women are awakened to the actual reality. I am an egalitarian by nature, but despite the struggle for equality, I still see double standards and myths carried forward by well meaning feminists. Pointing these out is very dangerous. </p>
<p>So it must be a woman reporting this to women, as no male will be heard. Thank you for your work</p>
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