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		By: Sheri		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is exactly the Hell I went thru for 42 years!!! I was a CPTSD sufferer in an arranged marriage...had 8 Beautiful Kids with my now deceased narcissist husband and I Survived and am learning to Thrive!! I am So Thankful for the Interventions of JESUS in my Life! Saved and Delivered from sex slavery before I married and saved and delivered from covert narcissic  abuse as of the last two years. There is Life after death!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly the Hell I went thru for 42 years!!! I was a CPTSD sufferer in an arranged marriage&#8230;had 8 Beautiful Kids with my now deceased narcissist husband and I Survived and am learning to Thrive!! I am So Thankful for the Interventions of JESUS in my Life! Saved and Delivered from sex slavery before I married and saved and delivered from covert narcissic  abuse as of the last two years. There is Life after death!!!</p>
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		By: Badass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Badass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2024 08:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you</p>
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		By: Alec Fraher		</title>
		<link>https://cptsdfoundation.org/2020/11/20/why-the-narcissistic-abuse-cycle-feels-like-cptsd-comfort/#comment-3741</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alec Fraher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2021 19:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2020/11/20/why-the-narcissistic-abuse-cycle-feels-like-cptsd-comfort/#comment-3538&quot;&gt;Alec Fraher&lt;/a&gt;.

A Love Letter to Your Soul - its about the release from an anima or animus possession and reconciliation with our own innocence. 

A way of radically loving yourself first and always being first. 



through brash and hawthorn, 
on hands and knees, 
crawling through hurt, 
cuts deep so deep, 
yet this blood entwined flows free, 
cellular divinity enshrined in me, 
heart aches, 
breaks to find thee, 
said angels and ghouls, 
don&#039;t go there, 
stay here with us, 
this dispare we&#039;ll share, 

Get To Fuck

this pain I&#039;ll bear not share, 
hold it in love, 
never dispare, 
I&#039;ll follow and follow, 
to find a love that hides, 
soul light as guide 
calming the inside, 
death thought, 
I have the cut of your cloth, 
menace I match thee, 
with axe, 
one blow, 
now let her go, 
you have what I am, 
now set her free, 
if you&#039;re in here I&#039;ll find you,  
hold you with care, 
I will carry you in love 
love to spare 

love did spread like star dust from above, 
a shower did fall this way, 
a story of love untold, 
of quantum bonds, 
and 
earnest promises to be kept, 
a pledge of love from oneself in the other, 
nothing else above, 
everything else to be, 
in a love so plain, 
so plain to see, 
fly high, 
hit the floor, 
smashed right through the fucking door, 
this pledge of love is like no other, 
so simple, simple as can be, 
nothing above, 
nothing below, 
in defiance of reality, 
no judge shall sit upon this shore, 
just love, 
divine mother of all life, 
take me to that place, 
deep within your womb, 
where I can know nothing, 
and be
reborn 
reborn anew.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cptsdfoundation.org/2020/11/20/why-the-narcissistic-abuse-cycle-feels-like-cptsd-comfort/#comment-3538">Alec Fraher</a>.</p>
<p>A Love Letter to Your Soul &#8211; its about the release from an anima or animus possession and reconciliation with our own innocence. </p>
<p>A way of radically loving yourself first and always being first. </p>
<p>through brash and hawthorn,<br />
on hands and knees,<br />
crawling through hurt,<br />
cuts deep so deep,<br />
yet this blood entwined flows free,<br />
cellular divinity enshrined in me,<br />
heart aches,<br />
breaks to find thee,<br />
said angels and ghouls,<br />
don&#8217;t go there,<br />
stay here with us,<br />
this dispare we&#8217;ll share, </p>
<p>Get To Fuck</p>
<p>this pain I&#8217;ll bear not share,<br />
hold it in love,<br />
never dispare,<br />
I&#8217;ll follow and follow,<br />
to find a love that hides,<br />
soul light as guide<br />
calming the inside,<br />
death thought,<br />
I have the cut of your cloth,<br />
menace I match thee,<br />
with axe,<br />
one blow,<br />
now let her go,<br />
you have what I am,<br />
now set her free,<br />
if you&#8217;re in here I&#8217;ll find you,<br />
hold you with care,<br />
I will carry you in love<br />
love to spare </p>
<p>love did spread like star dust from above,<br />
a shower did fall this way,<br />
a story of love untold,<br />
of quantum bonds,<br />
and<br />
earnest promises to be kept,<br />
a pledge of love from oneself in the other,<br />
nothing else above,<br />
everything else to be,<br />
in a love so plain,<br />
so plain to see,<br />
fly high,<br />
hit the floor,<br />
smashed right through the fucking door,<br />
this pledge of love is like no other,<br />
so simple, simple as can be,<br />
nothing above,<br />
nothing below,<br />
in defiance of reality,<br />
no judge shall sit upon this shore,<br />
just love,<br />
divine mother of all life,<br />
take me to that place,<br />
deep within your womb,<br />
where I can know nothing,<br />
and be<br />
reborn<br />
reborn anew.</p>
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		By: Alec Fraher		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alec Fraher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2021 18:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[apologies for my storming, it&#039;s how I am, nonetheless this may be useful. it&#039;s a friendship verse in Pali and English 

I have found that joyful appreciation works for me.

Annadatthu haro mitto 

one who makes friends only to cheat them 

Yo ca mitto vaci-paramo

one who is only good in word 

Anupiyanca yo ahu

one who flatters and cajoles

Apayesu ca yo sakha

and a companion in ruinous fun

Ete amitte cattaro It is vinnaya pandito

these four the heart knows as non friends 

Araka parivajjeyya 

avoid them from afar

Maggam patibhayam yatha

like a dangerous road 

Upakaro ca yo mitto 

a friend who is helpful 

Sukha-dukkho ca yo sakha

one who shares in your sorrows and joys

Attakkayi ca yo mitto 

one who points you to worthwhile things 

Yo ca mittanampako 

one sympathic to friendship of the true heart:

Etepi mittens cattaro Iti vinnaya pandito

these four, the wise heart knows as a true feeling as true friends. 

Sakkaccam payirupsaeyya 

attend to them earnestly and your heart will guide you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apologies for my storming, it&#8217;s how I am, nonetheless this may be useful. it&#8217;s a friendship verse in Pali and English </p>
<p>I have found that joyful appreciation works for me.</p>
<p>Annadatthu haro mitto </p>
<p>one who makes friends only to cheat them </p>
<p>Yo ca mitto vaci-paramo</p>
<p>one who is only good in word </p>
<p>Anupiyanca yo ahu</p>
<p>one who flatters and cajoles</p>
<p>Apayesu ca yo sakha</p>
<p>and a companion in ruinous fun</p>
<p>Ete amitte cattaro It is vinnaya pandito</p>
<p>these four the heart knows as non friends </p>
<p>Araka parivajjeyya </p>
<p>avoid them from afar</p>
<p>Maggam patibhayam yatha</p>
<p>like a dangerous road </p>
<p>Upakaro ca yo mitto </p>
<p>a friend who is helpful </p>
<p>Sukha-dukkho ca yo sakha</p>
<p>one who shares in your sorrows and joys</p>
<p>Attakkayi ca yo mitto </p>
<p>one who points you to worthwhile things </p>
<p>Yo ca mittanampako </p>
<p>one sympathic to friendship of the true heart:</p>
<p>Etepi mittens cattaro Iti vinnaya pandito</p>
<p>these four, the wise heart knows as a true feeling as true friends. </p>
<p>Sakkaccam payirupsaeyya </p>
<p>attend to them earnestly and your heart will guide you.</p>
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		By: Alec Fraher		</title>
		<link>https://cptsdfoundation.org/2020/11/20/why-the-narcissistic-abuse-cycle-feels-like-cptsd-comfort/#comment-3536</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alec Fraher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2021 15:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2020/11/20/why-the-narcissistic-abuse-cycle-feels-like-cptsd-comfort/#comment-2627&quot;&gt;Michelle Majeau&lt;/a&gt;.

I been reading Listening Dangerously : The Inner Dimensions of Dialogue Training  by Judith Simmer Brown, it&#039;s not necessarily about cptsd and or narcissism but rather the acknowledgement of the parts within us we talk to. 

The work has its basis in Christian-buddhist studies but the author has made efforts to be inclusive of other dualism in identity formation. 

I would, for those who are into it, have a look at Mind, Meaning and Mental Disorder : The Nature of Causal Explanation in Psychology and Psychiatry by Derek Bolton and Jonathan Hill.

I suggest this because as I am learning to manage the voids, chaos and ungroundedness I find, are being languaged without critical appreciation of the unique perceptual acuity inherent in cptsd, for example the abstraction of ideal types can be accounted for through what is called proprioception and also in Jungian Archetypes. 

It simply makes me wonder differently about how &#039;one&#039; sense makes, that&#039;s all. 

Q: The difference between explanation and understanding is?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cptsdfoundation.org/2020/11/20/why-the-narcissistic-abuse-cycle-feels-like-cptsd-comfort/#comment-2627">Michelle Majeau</a>.</p>
<p>I been reading Listening Dangerously : The Inner Dimensions of Dialogue Training  by Judith Simmer Brown, it&#8217;s not necessarily about cptsd and or narcissism but rather the acknowledgement of the parts within us we talk to. </p>
<p>The work has its basis in Christian-buddhist studies but the author has made efforts to be inclusive of other dualism in identity formation. </p>
<p>I would, for those who are into it, have a look at Mind, Meaning and Mental Disorder : The Nature of Causal Explanation in Psychology and Psychiatry by Derek Bolton and Jonathan Hill.</p>
<p>I suggest this because as I am learning to manage the voids, chaos and ungroundedness I find, are being languaged without critical appreciation of the unique perceptual acuity inherent in cptsd, for example the abstraction of ideal types can be accounted for through what is called proprioception and also in Jungian Archetypes. </p>
<p>It simply makes me wonder differently about how &#8216;one&#8217; sense makes, that&#8217;s all. </p>
<p>Q: The difference between explanation and understanding is?</p>
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		By: Eyes wide open.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eyes wide open.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2021 17:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jessica, 

If you replaced “he” with “ she.” This story would almost verbatim describe the horrific relationship that I am just 3 weeks of No Contact into. I never in my life thought I could be a party to the fuckery that I have put myself through at the hands of the narcissistic bitch that reeled me in. The soulless cunt that I met, sought me out and played me like a fiddle until I started to figure out her web of lies. Like you describe in your story, I always felt that I was a good judge of character and that my “crap detector” worked at a high level. After this experience, it definitely is on high alert. Thank you for your excellent work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessica, </p>
<p>If you replaced “he” with “ she.” This story would almost verbatim describe the horrific relationship that I am just 3 weeks of No Contact into. I never in my life thought I could be a party to the fuckery that I have put myself through at the hands of the narcissistic bitch that reeled me in. The soulless cunt that I met, sought me out and played me like a fiddle until I started to figure out her web of lies. Like you describe in your story, I always felt that I was a good judge of character and that my “crap detector” worked at a high level. After this experience, it definitely is on high alert. Thank you for your excellent work.</p>
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		By: Kristina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2020 00:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This post was absolutely fascinating and it opened my eyes to so much of my last 7 years. I want more than anything to go no contact. I&#039;ve been able to separate us physically but we have a young daughter. Other than all of the emotional and psychological torture, gaslighting, pathological lying and secret sex addiction, I don&#039;t have demonstrated proof of illegal activity or violence. I know he will want partial or 50/50 custody. Not only does that terrify me for our daughter, it ensures that I will have to continually deal with this parasite of a human on an on going basis.

He&#039;s currently in a psychiatric hospital for opioid addiction...so there&#039;s that. And of course it&#039;s my fault he&#039;s there. 

How do you suggest victims handle the &quot;leave and never look back&quot; when you have kids? And custody issues?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post was absolutely fascinating and it opened my eyes to so much of my last 7 years. I want more than anything to go no contact. I&#8217;ve been able to separate us physically but we have a young daughter. Other than all of the emotional and psychological torture, gaslighting, pathological lying and secret sex addiction, I don&#8217;t have demonstrated proof of illegal activity or violence. I know he will want partial or 50/50 custody. Not only does that terrify me for our daughter, it ensures that I will have to continually deal with this parasite of a human on an on going basis.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s currently in a psychiatric hospital for opioid addiction&#8230;so there&#8217;s that. And of course it&#8217;s my fault he&#8217;s there. </p>
<p>How do you suggest victims handle the &#8220;leave and never look back&#8221; when you have kids? And custody issues?</p>
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		By: Alex Oikodomos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Oikodomos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 20:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is very educating. Thanks for the text
How to differentiate the start of a virtuous cycle from the vicious one ?
Can one avoid the vicious cycle at all?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very educating. Thanks for the text<br />
How to differentiate the start of a virtuous cycle from the vicious one ?<br />
Can one avoid the vicious cycle at all?</p>
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		By: Em		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Em]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 10:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was so relatable! I get having to cut off all ties and having friends turn away in confusion with all the BS being fed to them. It makes me sick to look back and remember how much I gave thinking they&#039;d give back when I needed it the most - but no, narc&#039;s love to have vulnerable people around because they&#039;re so easy to control - it&#039;s like having their own personal slave. Now I feel a bit hypersensitive, if someone even has the appearance of treating me in a condescending, narc way - I&#039;m OUT! No thank you! I&#039;d rather not. 

Separating myself from past narcs, and refusing to play their psychotic games led me to my current relationship. We&#039;re on the same journey - healing from narc abuse. Everyday I feel validated by the goals we set and insights we can share to keep moving forward.

Thanks for a great article.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was so relatable! I get having to cut off all ties and having friends turn away in confusion with all the BS being fed to them. It makes me sick to look back and remember how much I gave thinking they&#8217;d give back when I needed it the most &#8211; but no, narc&#8217;s love to have vulnerable people around because they&#8217;re so easy to control &#8211; it&#8217;s like having their own personal slave. Now I feel a bit hypersensitive, if someone even has the appearance of treating me in a condescending, narc way &#8211; I&#8217;m OUT! No thank you! I&#8217;d rather not. </p>
<p>Separating myself from past narcs, and refusing to play their psychotic games led me to my current relationship. We&#8217;re on the same journey &#8211; healing from narc abuse. Everyday I feel validated by the goals we set and insights we can share to keep moving forward.</p>
<p>Thanks for a great article.</p>
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		By: Karen C. Robinson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen C. Robinson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was so helpful and clarifying! It was the most comprehensive explanation of this process that I have seen!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was so helpful and clarifying! It was the most comprehensive explanation of this process that I have seen!</p>
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