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		By: Laura		</title>
		<link>https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16667</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[This heavily mirrored my childhood and although I wasn&#039;t hit, my mother was frequently battered in front of me, and 50 years later the memories are vivid. I was an only child. He loved me the best way he could but I lived in total terror most of the time. The difference is that I deeply wanted to fight but couldn&#039;t. He died when I was 15 and I was mostly glad. I then became the tiger unleased from the cage and soon confronted everything I could get my hands on. I never bullied but became an extreme protector of friends and family. Still would be if i got a call for help. His death seemed to remove all fear for me in the world. My mother said I was &quot;meaner than a wharf rat&quot; and I can&#039;t deny. It&#039;s only after so many battles and heartbreaks now at 50, I avoid confrontation every way possible, mostly by isolating. But still I&#039;ve instinctively run right into the middle of domestic violence by strangers a few times with no concern for my wellbeing. It feels like just a permanent part of me. It&#039;s not a brilliant tactic for a woman of my age, but it&#039;s still instinct. Thanks for your story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This heavily mirrored my childhood and although I wasn&#8217;t hit, my mother was frequently battered in front of me, and 50 years later the memories are vivid. I was an only child. He loved me the best way he could but I lived in total terror most of the time. The difference is that I deeply wanted to fight but couldn&#8217;t. He died when I was 15 and I was mostly glad. I then became the tiger unleased from the cage and soon confronted everything I could get my hands on. I never bullied but became an extreme protector of friends and family. Still would be if i got a call for help. His death seemed to remove all fear for me in the world. My mother said I was &#8220;meaner than a wharf rat&#8221; and I can&#8217;t deny. It&#8217;s only after so many battles and heartbreaks now at 50, I avoid confrontation every way possible, mostly by isolating. But still I&#8217;ve instinctively run right into the middle of domestic violence by strangers a few times with no concern for my wellbeing. It feels like just a permanent part of me. It&#8217;s not a brilliant tactic for a woman of my age, but it&#8217;s still instinct. Thanks for your story.</p>
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		By: Roger		</title>
		<link>https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16054</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2022 14:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16042&quot;&gt;Kayla&lt;/a&gt;.

Kayla, thank you for writing publicly here, too.  Yes, abuse continues in silence AND survivors continue to suffer in silence.  I was almost 46, before I was accurately diagnosed with PTSD/CPTSD.  That was 8 years ago this spring.  I have learned a lot in these past 8 years, and I am still learning about my learned behaviors from childhood, that are not needed with non-abusive folks (eg: just because someone is irritated, their next step is not to start breaking things.  That is a new concept to me.)  I am glad you are learning how you have been affected.  This kind of learning has been eye-opening, shocking, helpful and healing for me.

Yes, as we survivors speak openly about what we lived through and what we live with, others can learn and hopefully, heal some. 

I think my next two posts here will be interesting to you, also.  I explain how triggers activate neuropathways in the brain. (I explain neuropathways, using common non-traumatic examples.)  Then I explain how common nice actions can be triggers depending on the abuse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16042">Kayla</a>.</p>
<p>Kayla, thank you for writing publicly here, too.  Yes, abuse continues in silence AND survivors continue to suffer in silence.  I was almost 46, before I was accurately diagnosed with PTSD/CPTSD.  That was 8 years ago this spring.  I have learned a lot in these past 8 years, and I am still learning about my learned behaviors from childhood, that are not needed with non-abusive folks (eg: just because someone is irritated, their next step is not to start breaking things.  That is a new concept to me.)  I am glad you are learning how you have been affected.  This kind of learning has been eye-opening, shocking, helpful and healing for me.</p>
<p>Yes, as we survivors speak openly about what we lived through and what we live with, others can learn and hopefully, heal some. </p>
<p>I think my next two posts here will be interesting to you, also.  I explain how triggers activate neuropathways in the brain. (I explain neuropathways, using common non-traumatic examples.)  Then I explain how common nice actions can be triggers depending on the abuse.</p>
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		By: Kayla		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2022 16:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16035&quot;&gt;Roger Reynolds&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry, but kinda glad I’m not the only one who’s had to walk out of places due to being triggered. I just thought, initially, I was exasperated with other people and their behaviors, but turns out I’ve been triggered most of my life and coping by “fleeing” the room, usually quietly by removing myself without a word, or just a quiet word unrelated to the trigger.

Very odd to realize these were avoidance behaviors after starting therapy. I didn’t have anyone to teach me how to handle my strong emotions better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16035">Roger Reynolds</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry, but kinda glad I’m not the only one who’s had to walk out of places due to being triggered. I just thought, initially, I was exasperated with other people and their behaviors, but turns out I’ve been triggered most of my life and coping by “fleeing” the room, usually quietly by removing myself without a word, or just a quiet word unrelated to the trigger.</p>
<p>Very odd to realize these were avoidance behaviors after starting therapy. I didn’t have anyone to teach me how to handle my strong emotions better.</p>
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		By: Roger Reynolds		</title>
		<link>https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16037</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 17:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16016&quot;&gt;Nadine Rhodda&lt;/a&gt;.

Nadine, you are most welcome and I am so glad this help clarify some understandings of abuse that is not always easy to identify; that was my hope.  Yes, I agree, most, if not all, no contact physical abuse is emotional abuse. 

You are spot on to identify some more no contact physical abuses.  Sadly, some abusers are very clever, careful and yet, highly effective.  To damage objects and animals that someone else cares about is certainly no contact physical abuse.  

I agree, the more we can identify actions and non-actions as neglect or abuse, the easier we can deal with them. Well said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16016">Nadine Rhodda</a>.</p>
<p>Nadine, you are most welcome and I am so glad this help clarify some understandings of abuse that is not always easy to identify; that was my hope.  Yes, I agree, most, if not all, no contact physical abuse is emotional abuse. </p>
<p>You are spot on to identify some more no contact physical abuses.  Sadly, some abusers are very clever, careful and yet, highly effective.  To damage objects and animals that someone else cares about is certainly no contact physical abuse.  </p>
<p>I agree, the more we can identify actions and non-actions as neglect or abuse, the easier we can deal with them. Well said.</p>
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		By: Roger Reynolds		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 17:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16014&quot;&gt;Jess&lt;/a&gt;.

Jess, 

You are welcome and thanks for your comment.  Yes, when one knows violence is always possible, fear of it is always on one&#039;s mind.]]></description>
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<p>Jess, </p>
<p>You are welcome and thanks for your comment.  Yes, when one knows violence is always possible, fear of it is always on one&#8217;s mind.</p>
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		By: Roger Reynolds		</title>
		<link>https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16035</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Reynolds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 17:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16012&quot;&gt;Kayla&lt;/a&gt;.

Kayla, 

I am so glad you found this post helpful.  I found the condition angrophobia by doing searches about &quot;fear of anger.&quot;  I can relate to leaving public or work situations, because of reactions connected to my childhood.  Yes, the slightest irritation in someone&#039;s voice, and I am on high alert, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16012">Kayla</a>.</p>
<p>Kayla, </p>
<p>I am so glad you found this post helpful.  I found the condition angrophobia by doing searches about &#8220;fear of anger.&#8221;  I can relate to leaving public or work situations, because of reactions connected to my childhood.  Yes, the slightest irritation in someone&#8217;s voice, and I am on high alert, too.</p>
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		By: Nadine Rhodda		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nadine Rhodda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2022 19:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Roger. Made many actions of abuse clearer to me. And some actions are both non contact physical and emotional abuse.  E.g. Hurting pets, chopping down a loved tree, slamming doors. My mother burnt my books when I was a kid...trashing others property is also non contact physical abuse.  When you can define things better it&#039;s easier to deal with them.  So your article is very helpful for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Roger. Made many actions of abuse clearer to me. And some actions are both non contact physical and emotional abuse.  E.g. Hurting pets, chopping down a loved tree, slamming doors. My mother burnt my books when I was a kid&#8230;trashing others property is also non contact physical abuse.  When you can define things better it&#8217;s easier to deal with them.  So your article is very helpful for me.</p>
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		By: Jess		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2022 13:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for sharing your story Roger. I too lived through something similar. Constant fear of my mothers rage. She only hit us a few times but she didn’t need to. We were in constant fear of her without the beatings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing your story Roger. I too lived through something similar. Constant fear of my mothers rage. She only hit us a few times but she didn’t need to. We were in constant fear of her without the beatings.</p>
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		By: Kayla		</title>
		<link>https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16012</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kayla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2022 13:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have had panic attacks and shut down dissociation when someone gets directly angry at me for something due to angrophobia from my childhood. I had this happen once at work so badly I had to leave an hour early before the end of my shift because I felt so sick and like I was going to pass out and/or throw up from fear.

This is the first time I’ve heard or seen tale of someone else experiencing what I am only just beginning to understand. I’m 31, and have been in trauma therapy for 2 years now working on all my reactions to my childhood abuse, neglect, and other traumas thrown in.

My parents’ and older brothers’ anger and violence towards each other was, mostly, no-contact violence/abuse towards me. It was mainly directed at each other, but I greatly feared their anger and it being directed at me.

I still tremble when I get in a conflict with someone now, even knowing they’re giving me a safe space to have that conflict with reasonable listening skills being used. But, any hint of anger or frustration on the other party’s part and my hyper-vigilance turns on and I usually subconsciously try to fawn and then want to kick myself later for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had panic attacks and shut down dissociation when someone gets directly angry at me for something due to angrophobia from my childhood. I had this happen once at work so badly I had to leave an hour early before the end of my shift because I felt so sick and like I was going to pass out and/or throw up from fear.</p>
<p>This is the first time I’ve heard or seen tale of someone else experiencing what I am only just beginning to understand. I’m 31, and have been in trauma therapy for 2 years now working on all my reactions to my childhood abuse, neglect, and other traumas thrown in.</p>
<p>My parents’ and older brothers’ anger and violence towards each other was, mostly, no-contact violence/abuse towards me. It was mainly directed at each other, but I greatly feared their anger and it being directed at me.</p>
<p>I still tremble when I get in a conflict with someone now, even knowing they’re giving me a safe space to have that conflict with reasonable listening skills being used. But, any hint of anger or frustration on the other party’s part and my hyper-vigilance turns on and I usually subconsciously try to fawn and then want to kick myself later for it.</p>
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		By: Roger Reynolds		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2022 23:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16002&quot;&gt;Amy&lt;/a&gt;.

Amy, I am sorry you lived through similar events.  Thanks for all of your kind words.  You are also very good at writing.  Abuse continues in silence, so I am speaking out.  The more we survivors can identify the abuses we survived, the better we can validate and care for ourselves.  Your kind, validating and supportive words mean a lot to me.  This is why I decided to start writing, making YouTube videos (link is in my bio here) and public speaking.  Ironically, I learned some of my clear communication skills trying to talk about reality with my gaslighting family, who were working really hard NOT to talk about what they had really done or said.  

What I call “submit and appease,” Pete Walker calls “Fawn.”  He has written more about it here.  http://www.pete-walker.com/codependencyFawnResponse.htm  I hope to have a post here a couple of times a month.  I have posts planned about “all emotions are valid,” “reading micro-expressions,” “emotional dissociation,” all leading up to a piece about “Submit and Appease.”  I am so glad you learned a lot from this piece and I hope my future pieces continue to help you better understand what you lived through, so you have less suffering and more comfort in your life.  Roger]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cptsdfoundation.org/2022/05/26/no-contact-physical-abuse/#comment-16002">Amy</a>.</p>
<p>Amy, I am sorry you lived through similar events.  Thanks for all of your kind words.  You are also very good at writing.  Abuse continues in silence, so I am speaking out.  The more we survivors can identify the abuses we survived, the better we can validate and care for ourselves.  Your kind, validating and supportive words mean a lot to me.  This is why I decided to start writing, making YouTube videos (link is in my bio here) and public speaking.  Ironically, I learned some of my clear communication skills trying to talk about reality with my gaslighting family, who were working really hard NOT to talk about what they had really done or said.  </p>
<p>What I call “submit and appease,” Pete Walker calls “Fawn.”  He has written more about it here.  <a href="http://www.pete-walker.com/codependencyFawnResponse.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pete-walker.com/codependencyFawnResponse.htm</a>  I hope to have a post here a couple of times a month.  I have posts planned about “all emotions are valid,” “reading micro-expressions,” “emotional dissociation,” all leading up to a piece about “Submit and Appease.”  I am so glad you learned a lot from this piece and I hope my future pieces continue to help you better understand what you lived through, so you have less suffering and more comfort in your life.  Roger</p>
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