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The Difficult Road to Intimacy: Living with Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder | CPTSDfoundation.org

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***Trigger Warning ***

The following material has been reported to be highly triggering to some. Please be kind to yourself as you read through the content. The purpose of this article is to help survivors be less of an enigma to themselves, by explaining some of the most troubling problems with complex trauma and relationships.

 

Living with complex post-traumatic stress disorder (CPTSD) is very challenging. It affects every aspect of the lives of those who suffer under its symptoms. In this article, we are going to examine together with a brief synopsis of CPTSD and how this disorder creates difficulty in forming and maintaining intimate relationships.

An Overview of Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder

CPTSD isn’t yet in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), the Bible used by psychiatrists and psychologists to diagnose mental health issues. Instead, it is part of a category called Trauma and Stress-Related Disorders under post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).

The problem is that while PTSD generally involves a single traumatic event, complex post-traumatic stress disorder involves exposure to repeated traumatic events. One argument is the reason for the exclusion of CPTSD from the DSM-5 is that while PTSD affects 7-8% of adults, CPTSD occurs in .05% of adults.

The symptoms of complex post-traumatic stress disorder are broader than those of PTSD. In the following sections, we’ll examine these deeper problems and how they affect a survivor’s ability to form and maintain healthy intimate relationships.

Trust Issues

One of the most profound and perhaps the root of all the other issues, that will be mention below, involves problems trusting others.

Since many who live with complex traumatic-stress disorder in their lives formed the condition as the result of enduring ongoing trauma while young, it isn’t hard to see why trust issues are a problem.

The trauma normally involves some type of abuse and betrayal by the very people who were supposed to care for and nurture survivors, when they were children. This repeated behavior by caregivers trains the child’s brain to cope with the inevitability of more trauma. Furthermore, when these children become adults, their brains are already hardwired to be fearful of intimacy and cautious of trust.

Flashbacks

Flashbacks are not simply remembering a traumatic event. Flashbacks thrust survivor back in time and relive the events as though they are occurring today.

There are three types of flashbacks, visual, somatic, and emotional. Although all three are harmful to the formation of relationships, emotional flashbacks are more so than the other two.

When survivors experience emotional flashbacks, they are irrational, and will often lash out at innocent people in their current lives. Normally, people who have these flashbacks do not understand where the emotional outburst comes from, and it takes a long time to make amends to those they harm.

Painful Loneliness

Survivors who live with CPTSD feel disconnected from humanity and themselves. In fact, survivors often describe how they feel as though they are here on earth by mistake and do not belong anywhere. Survivors often remain in an intense state of loneliness even when standing in a crowded room, because of the disconnection and lack of trust they feel toward and from other people.

The lack of trust survivors experience causes them to either consciously or subconsciously push anyone who wants to get close away and is compounded by internal beliefs that they are damaged goods, broken, and unlovable.

Hypervigilance

Survivors of complex trauma have a deep subconscious need to watch for any indication that someone is going to harm them. This results in survivors constantly scanning their environment for signs and sounds that tell their brains to prepare to fight, flee, or even freeze.

The signs might include non-verbal movements, body language, and tone of voice of another person, as well as sounds in the room or outside, that remind them of a previous traumatic event.

Hypervigilance is exhausting and makes a survivor choose to be alone rather than to be in a group where they can socialize and form relationships.

Body Image Difficulties

Due to the trauma perpetrated by caregivers in childhood, many people living with complex traumatic-stress disorder have deep-seated body image problems.

Too often, people who have CPTSD see their bodies as ugly, fat, and undesirable. These difficulties with self-image can lead to not only the formation of eating disorders, but also making the survivor fearful of allowing others to see them unclothed.

It is easy to see how this internal terror can lead to the survivor choosing not to get involved in an intimate partner relationship.

Searching for a Rescuer

Survivors often have one of two different reactions when it comes to relationships. They will either search incessantly for someone to rescue them, or they will avoid relationships altogether.

Those who search for someone to rescue them feel helpless and believe they need someone to save them from the pain of their past. They believe if they get involved with the right person they can feel complete again, and rely on them for comfort and support.

Sadly, this thought process often leads to survivors choosing the wrong partner, due to human tendencies to find romantic relationships that mimic our childhoods. These unfortunate people ignore behaviors that others would see as clear warning signs. Instead, out of deep desperation, they look past any flaws, in order to experience love and validation.

This lack of discernment of others can lead to the perpetuation of exploitation and intimate violence.

Choosing Not to Form Any Intimate Relationships

Survivors living with complex post-traumatic stress disorder have the same desires and needs for intimacy, sex, and attachment as anyone else. The difference is that they may choose to avoid forming intimate partner relationships.

It is vital to understand that in childhood these adults experienced a betrayal of trust, and often the sexual violation of their bodies.

Due to the betrayal of their trust in childhood, when these survivors do find themselves in a romantic relationship they often confound their partners by allowing them to draw close, but then quickly withdrawing.

Then, due to the sexual violation in childhood, sex is a huge issue for some. Forcing survivors to act like they are enjoying sex with their partner. When in fact, they are not. This pretense can result in them feeling dirty, used, and full of revulsion.

It is easy to see that in either scenario there will be big problems with anyone who attempts to form a loving and long-term relationship with survivors, leading to broken hearts and break-ups.

Because of the pain survivors inflict on others and themselves, many choose to live in terror of forming intimate relationships and avoid them totally.

The Problem of Shame in the Forming of Intimate Relationships

Shame is a fundamental emotion that shapes our lives from the time we are born until our death. When used in a positive manner, shame can help children learn to control their emotions and treat others with respect and dignity.

However, when shame is used as a weapon to control and harm children, the effects are lifelong and cause great difficulties later in life in the formation of healthy intimate relationships.

A paper published in 2010 in the Journal of Traumatic Stress1 titled The Impact of Dissociation, Shame, and Guilt on Interpersonal Relationships in Chronically Traumatized Individuals: A Pilot Study offers some insights into how shame shapes our relationship formation later in life.

The researchers found that the accumulation of shame throughout a person’s lifetime is a predictor of intimate relationship difficulties. Not only this but when coupled with severe dissociative symptoms, survivors can feel an intense sense of disconnectedness to other people.

With such internal conflicts happening inside the minds of survivors of complex trauma, it is almost impossible to form and maintain intimate relationships.

Do Not Lose Hope

Reading this article might have caused some readers to feel there is no hope of them forming lasting, loving, and fulfilling relationships due to having lived through complex trauma.

That is not the purpose of this piece. The purpose of this article is to help survivors be less of an enigma to themselves, by explaining some of the most troubling problems with complex trauma and relationships.

In the articles that follow, we will examine together the effects complex trauma has on the brains of survivors and ways to help yourself conquer your symptoms.

Whatever you do, do not lose hope.

 

References

1. Dorahy, M. J. (2010). The impact of dissociation, shame, and guilt on interpersonal relationships in chronically traumatized individuals: A pilot study. Journal of Traumatic Stress, 23(5), 653-656.

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Shirley Davis

Thank you, I’ll consider it. Shirley

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  • A.b

    It would be great if you did, all of the above is highly triggering and the chance of someone to stop reading before the last part (since the stuff mentioned above is painful to read), is very high.

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Shirley Davis

I’m very sorry you found the piece highly triggering. It is meant to educate and to remind others that they are not alone.

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  • Tracy Schwartzenberg

    It is informative indeed. Painfully so. Also I am grateful yet sad. I do not want to have this effect on others. Indeed I’m sure I have. I avoid relationships. My last relationship was with a narcissist. I have a lot of work to do. I thank you for the article.

  • Tamara

    We know.

  • Gigi

    Great piece Shirley, thank you. I was in tears before I saw your “don’t lose hope” line, what a comforting reminder after a deep-dive into lots of literature that paints a grim picture but doesn’t reiterate that there are ways to overcome.

  • DTM.

    I found all this very relatable, like watching back a video tape rather than looking in a mirror.
    The question now is how to heal from it, at nearly 45 years of age.

  • Chloe Sharratt

    100% in agreement

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    • Patrick Salway

      Most survivors would be triggered by this.
      I have no idea why the author hasn’t taken the advice listed by those in the know!

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    Shirley Davis

    There is a huge trigger warning at the top to warn folks who may become triggered but this subject is much too important to not talk about it. I don’t remove the article for that fact. If we never speak and discuss intimacy and trauma it will remain in the dark and cannot be conquered. I’m sorry if you were triggered. I hope you are better today. Shirley

  • Donna

    This article was very informative. Well written. I’d like to comment to the last parts briefly touching on cptsd behaviors affecting their partners. It says without using the term abuse as if that’s what we’ve become. Abusers. And that simply is not so. We, men & women, with cptsd end up marrying abusers. In an earlier part of the article it is stated people with cptsd end up with wrong partners. But later it’s stated we adversely affect them. Is it really both ways. For myself have been diagnosed with cptsd related to repeated trauma. I have not become the abuser. Marrying alcoholics did not do me any favors. It was what I was familiar from my childhood. I still like this article. Painful to read. But it’s truth in it. Makes me see I have farther to go than I thought. One thing that has helped me enormously has been seeking healing from Codependence. Pia Mellody’s videos and books were tremendous in helping me gain self worth and value. Thanks for reading if you got all the way through this.

  • Tiffany

    I think my biggest issue with this article is that it makes it seem as if C-ptsd is exclusively by way of childhood trauma. I have come across that viewpoint many times. However, that was not how i came to be diagnosed.

    Mine was many simultaneous situations (severe 6 year daily stalking by a twisted neighbor, then a first and only 3 year narcissistic relationship, 3.5 year hoa lawsuit brought on by twisted neighbor, 8 family deaths in a matter of 5 years and a suicidal sibling who lived two hours away) obviously too much to bare within a 7 year time frame.

    After being physically attacked by my neighbor/stalker, i sought therapy, which was when i was diagnosed. The stalking continued while i was in therapy, even with the restraining order.

    I guess my point in saying all of this is that it can come in many forms in the world we live in, as everyone seems to be dealing with a lot.

    I surely hope that we can all find peace and heal from our traumas.

    To Shirley, with that being said, thank you for shedding light on this topic, for i believe it is too highly misunderstood and under-seen.

  • J

    It depends on who you end up with.
    My husband’s ex wife was Narcissist and he was the victim.
    Now he is the abuser to me. Whenever he is triggered he act very similar to his abusers in his past and treat me as if I’m his abuser. I’ve been so hurt by his narcissistic ptsd behaviors. Some articles says ‘don’t take it personally’. Really? How is it possible to do that when I’m blamed for bad marriage and lot of things I do to take care of him look so similar to his abuser’s traits to him. I’m developing vicarious ptsd from dealing with his triggers too open.

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    Shirley Davis

    I do not know the circumstances that make you stay, but you might consider making alternate plans. He sounds abusive and you don’t deserve that. Just a suggestion from someone who cares. Shirley

  • fatnbald

    Thank you….I greatly appreciated the article. Very informative, I am married 5 years to a survivor and we are struggling. I need to be compassionate, but the weekly “emotional flashback” can be brutal. Fear brings out the worst in everyone. I vote to keep article, it helped remind me why I fell in love and married her in the first place

  • David

    This is a very accurate read. Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. Anyone with CPTSD and is still struggling please research these three therapy methods . TRTP, EMDR and TMS. Amazing methods that have made me feel like I am now over the worst my symptoms. 41 years old and finally feeling better. Good luck

  • F

    I agree with the other. The last paragraph would have been amazing to read first.

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  • Kristy Burton

    Thank you for this well written and insightful information.

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  • Amy

    Please do. I almost didn’t even bother reading to the end because it seemed pointless… I basically was reading that there was no hope….. People like me who run across this article NEED to know there’s hope. I pray nobody gave up in the middle of the article like I almost did.

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  • Holly

    I would agree with “Sigmond”. The article, albeit thorough and highly informative it is triggering for both a victim…and lived ones/partners. I have been with my husband for 26 years. He disclosed his horrific victimization after 16 years of being with him.
    It has been a gruelling 9 years with very little peace in sight. In fact, after many years of loving, supporting, caring, etc…It’s getting increasingly difficult to continue to be invisible.
    This article opens a can of worms, and doesn’t seem to close it.
    The final line feels cliche and I supported. Where are the “articles that follow” located.
    Oh, and what would you suggest for partners of those with a CPTSD diagnosis?

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    Shirley Davis

    I will have to speak with the editor to see if we need to pull this article. It was NEVER meant to harm anyone. There were other articles about CPTSD that followed but after this one, they may not have clicked. Thank you for your comment. Shirley

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    • Ricardo

      Please leave as is. I appreciated the trigger warning and chose to continue reading. If you take it down many will miss out.
      Accessed Oct 18, 2021. The most useful and objective thing I’ve seen in the four years since I learned I have CPTSD.

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      • Sarah

        I agree, it should be left as-is, the bold trigger warning is warning enough that there is unpleasant information if one chooses to keep reading. While a reminder not to lose hope is nice, the point of the article isn’t to be nice, and as someone with CPTSD along with several other mental health struggles, I appreciate the straight-forward information, regardless how unpleasant. The illness itself IS unpleasant. I do hope anyone with any mental illness chooses to not lose hope, but to try to to soften the harsh realities of any illness in order to be more pleasant for readers contradicts it’s intent to inform and bring awareness.
        This is one of the only articles that has helped me put into words a way to explain to someone else why I react to some things the way I do, and for once, that explanation made sense. Thank you.

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    Shirley Davis

    From the bottom of my heart, thank you. Sometimes the things I write about are controversial and touch a nerve in people. This article certainly did that. I’m glad you found it helpful. Shirley Davis

  • Tiffany

    I agree, yes, please keep the article posted.

  • Kendra

    I just found out I have CPTSD and I am hungry for information about it. I’m not a fan of censoring. So, please don’t take it down.

    I have struggled so much with relationships and need information.

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    • Jennifer

      AGREED.

  • Amy Stephan

    This article was very helpful to me! Complex trauma is extremely difficult to live with but I do have hope of healing and having a fulfilling relationship with my husband of 23 years. It’s extremely hard on him with trying to understand my distortions and lack of trust and intimacy. I won’t give up and will keep working on myself and my relationships with friends and my patient husband. Complex trauma is very difficult to overcome but I will persevere and overcome the inner pain. Thank you for writing this article.

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  • JC

    Shirley, I appreciate the article you wrote here. Very thorough and well informed. Also, people who suggested the conclusion should have come first are not wrong. But you don’t seem to be hearing or appreciating what they are actually saying. Rather, you seem to assume that (just b/c people mention the article is a difficult read) they are suggesting it should be ‘pulled’ (you mentioned that a couple times). Yet not a single person actually said (or even suggested) it should not be published. They are telling you something very different than that. They are APPRECIATING the article. AND (yes) admitting they find it difficult. But ALSO that they accept the difficulty as part of the package. AND that they felt relief when they got to the part at the end that was more ‘warm and fuzzy’. But they are NOT saying they want to avoid the the difficult substance of the article. And they are certainly NOT saying (not even suggesting) that you should avoid publishing it, just because it is difficult going for many of us. They are simply saying that, while they expected and accepted the rough terrain in the middle, you could make it easier for survivors to get through the hard parts by ALSO offering at the beginning some of the warm encouragement that you so caringly offered at the conclusion. (Rather than just the typical, perfunctory ‘danger sign’ of a trigger warning at the top, like so many other articles). So, they are actually telling you how very helpful the ending is, in particular, AND that they need more of that at the outset … to help sustain them better emotionally throughout the body of the article. So please listen, really listen to your readers. They are giving you a gift of honest insight, also born of experience. They are NOT devaluing your article or trying to rob you of your creative achievement. They are not even being ‘armchair authors’. They are actually offering you some insight into the impact of your words and how that might be improved (not removed). In fact, the ‘warm fuzzy’ material needn’t be ‘either/or’ (i.e. placed only at the beginning OR the end). If you are very attached to the placement of the ‘warm fuzzy’ material at the conclusion, you could still leave it there; AND you could ALSO consider saying the same thing (or something similar) at the very beginning. If you wanted to … if you felt it would help people more effectively (which I think is the purpose of you writing this – but it also depends on who you think your audience is for this piece). Regardless, thank you for your important piece of work here, very well done, and very useful. Please keep writing more.

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    Shirley Davis

    Thank you for your insight. Shirley

  • Anonymous

    Holly – reaching out to say you are not alone. Having known my husband for over 25 years (married for 14) I have always known he’s struggled with mental health issues and certain pieces of childhood trauma (Early parental death) but after many many years of misdiagnosis, spirals of alcohol abuse and general lack of understanding of the root of his issues, only more recently has the whole of his abusive and horrific childhood come to light. As if parts of his brain holding horrible memories have woken up. Literally. I’ve found some resources for partners of survivors of childhood sexual abuse, but very little for partners to those more comprehensively with c-ptsd (including CSA). It’s a very lonely, rejecting, selfless challenging role at times and we need education and support. After 25 years as a partner, I admit I’m losing hope but it’s hard to give up when you truly care about someone even if they have a difficult time showing it to you. If you ever want to connect pls reach out. Also generally as a partner I found this information reassuring to confirm what I know, and while sad, not triggering (again tho I’m not the survivor). I appreciate the info as there is little out there.

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    Shirley Davis
    Shirley Davis on August 8, 2020 at 9:30 am

    I appreciate your comment very much. Please consider joining one of the programs offered by CPTSD Foundation. If you cannot pay, we have scholarships. Go to https://www.cptsdfoundation.org/scholarship to find the help you need. We don’t want anyone to feel alone. Shirley

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  • Holly

    Hi Meaghan,
    Thank you very much for your thoughtful reply. I can completely relate to your comments. My husband is quite a remarkable soul I will say, so kind and caring most of the time. I’d say being the intimate partner results in unique experiences to us, which a survivor’s siblings and friends never see. Anyhow, sooooooo much has gone on in 2 years, including the death of my own father for which grieving has been on hold.
    Having lived through dozens of spirals, triggers, conversations, and more…secondary and vicarious trauma have been excruciating. That being said, I too love my husband deeply. If he had a cancer or an. ALS Diagnosis I would never leave him…so a mental health diagnosis is tough to walk away from as well. That being said, I’ve changed and adapted as many times as any octopus would change, and it’s exhausting. Compassion fatigue is real.
    Your support is appreciated. I don’t think ANYONE could ever understand what caretakers go through. Sharon, that’s an article well worth writing! 👊🏻👍🏻

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  • Alison Green

    There seems to be increasing evidence that cPTSD and Borderline Personality Disorder share many features and some psychologists believe they are pretty much the same thing. BPD is a “Cluster B” Personality Disorder and it has also been found that traumatised individuals can display characteristics from various disorders in this group. BPD has a large component of dissociation, also found after trauma.
    Also, many Male CSA survivors go for decades before revealing it ever happened- the average is 26 years according to the American Male survivor organisation One in Six.
    So….I just wonder if Dialectical Behaviour Therapy, developed for BPD, might be worth considering in cPTSD? Also, please see some other great resources- “cPTSD From Surviving to Thriving” by Pete Walker and “Victims no Longer” by Mike Lew who also runs weekend workshops a few times a year in the US, UK and Australia and in Scandinavia- for Male CSA survivors- also see if any local sexual abuse counselling services have Male-only groups- and if they don’t- help them to start one.

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  • mark

    hi Shirley. just found this article. it completely describes my love life. I just was assessed as having CPTSD from two abusive adoptions. finally now I realize why when I was young I didn’t seek out dates, as you put it consciously and subconsciously pushed away interested girls/women who pursued me but had this deep deep desire for affection. I was repulsed, anxious, desirous and confused by my emotions. i can only imagine what they must have thought. it’s incredibly painful to think about all the love I could have experienced. even with my wife I get cold toward her, and feel both smothered but also yearning for connection. part of me wants her close and another part pushes her away. all Ihave ever truly wanted in life was to feel comfortable with love and affection. thank you for writing this.

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  • kelly harrington

    I heartily agree

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  • Carole

    A very clear and insightful article from Shirley. After a long life trying to come to terms with it all, I’m now pretty happy. There is hope but in my case it’s tinged forever by my formative years and suffering. Quite a waste. But deep understanding and love ( of myself) too. Thank you Shirley for your truth-telling and care.

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  • Sarah

    I agree

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  • Dave Somerton

    While I’m aware this is an old article, I chose to leave a comment as I am very surprised by the use of the wordings –
    “choosing not to get involved in an intimate partner relationship.”
    And “to choose to live in terror of forming intimate relationships,” – as a survivor of C-PTSD, I can guarantee you there is no feeling of choice in the matter, because of the intensely confusing and paralysing fear and anxiety experienced even when in a loving, intimate relationship and to label it as such is intensely shaming and invalidating for someone beginning to understand the impact C-PTSD has on their life.

    Furthermore, the labelling of survivors as ‘unfortunate people,’ gives an air of belittlement and is not what I would hope to read on a website dedicated to supporting survivors of C-PTSD.

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  • Rita Newell

    I found this piece highly informative and realized for the 1st time that I’m dealing with CPTSD, and not PTSD, as I endured years of abuse in many forms from infancy until the age of 15. I started running away at age 10 and they kept taking me back to my abusers. And then we would move. And then they would start again. I’ve had lots of healing but still have serious trust issues and am hypervigilant when riding as a passenger with any male drivers. It’s exhausting! I’m 70 years old and still trying to resolve these issues. Reading your article gave me new strategies for tackling my symptoms. Could you please email me this article or send me a link to my email address? I’ve tried saving it multiple ways but it just keeps saving the webpage. I need the article for my husband. It will help both of us. As he drove me into work this morning, I spent most of the 25 minutes in a panic though he has not gotten us in an accident in 45 years of marriage. Again, please email me article or link.

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  • Jay

    While I agree with the others about this being painful to read through, I’m grateful that this resource was available. Any bit of information is helpful.

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  • Clare Simms

    Hi Shirley
    May we reproduce this insightful and easy to understand article for women in the English criminal justice system? In a new magazine you can see here

    https://theviewmag.org.uk

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  • Jane

    Thank you for this excellent article. I’m in love with a man with C-PTSD who does not acknowledge the truth of this behavior pattern. When he acts in ways I struggle to understand or cope with, articles like this make it possible for me to stick around and not take it personally.

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  • Jen

    I agree with a other commenter that this is highly triggering and adding do not lose hope to the beginning of the article.
    The information is good, but on the edge of too hard to read.

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  • Chloe

    I think your article is great. It’s difficult to accept and to read but it’s helpful and it’s all that matters.
    Thank you

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  • Ali

    I agree with many of the above commenters that this article is pretty triggering. I’m a survivor of c-ptsd, and for the greater part of 27 years use industrial quantities of alcohol to try and numb out the awful. I quite drinking nearly 3.5 years ago, and am on my way to thriving, mainly because I choose to and I’m doing the work in therapy – I chose life over alcohol, and I want to live a full life, not a half life – and this is something I’d like to share with future partners (although I will have to talk them through some aspects). As a survivor, this was really near the knuckle, but I’m glad it exists because it succinctly describes some of the key things that cause me issues now – the dissociation, the feeling alone even in a crowded room, the lack of trust in others and hyper-vigilance for bad things, the feeling I don’t fit, that I’m not like others, not as popular, likeable etc. I know those things are not true, but they all exist in my head at the same time as my knowing that, and constantly working to change the narrative is exhausting

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  • Edalia

    Thanks for this. I only just learnt about complex ptsd and realised that that’s what I have. I found this a good read. It is painful like people said but i found it helpful.

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  • Micah Lyn

    This article is like reading about my life. It was a difficult read, some minor triggering that tested my coping strategies occurred. But it does put the truth of who I am back out in front of my eyes. Which does give me hope because reading this article just six months ago would have sent me off into suicidal ideation. So there is hope. 🙏

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  • whitney

    I thought this was a great informative-use article, I am a C-PTSD survivor and have been in a relationship for a year now. I constantly struggle with trying to articulate what is going on internally for me to my partner in a way she can understand, I struggle with intimacy and trust on the daily and the hypervigilance is indeed exhausting so by reading this in the view of my partners mind it is very informative and helpful for understanding. relationships w/o mental health diagnosis’ are a lot of work normally and w/ C-PTSD I personally fight constantly with wanting to just be alone and attempting to overcome the many hurdles that come with finding connection to other people is often tiring. It is common for me to search for articles to help the people in my life understand better when I’m struggling to talk and this is one I will be passing along to my support, there is a bold trigger warning at the front of the article to prepare the reader and the discussion points are direct and insightful on some of the most difficult parts so many of us are unable to talk about. thank you!

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  • Old maid

    It wasn’t the article that triggered me at all, but rather seeing comment after comment about people married to cptsd survivors. That makes me both sad and angry. As a “survivor” of cptsd, I’m completely shut out of romantic relationships; single now for almost FOUR YEARS, no physical affection aside from my cats for nearly a year. Sure, I’ve been in therapy for just about two years, but it feels irrelevant if I’m healing in order to be alone forever, right? Why be ‘healthy’ if you’re isolated from human experience?

    It’s hard to not feel jealousy when it seems everyone else with cptsd manages to find a partner, yet here I am: 42 and alone. I blame my perceived race (Americans don’t comprehend the idea that you can be mid eastern and NOT Muslim; I’m constantly being labelled as black…sigh) more than the cptsd, but the two together make me 100% undesirable to all decent men. (Narcissists and abusers flock to me, and I’ve learned to assume any man showing interest is just looking for a victim. Sad, but not incorrect)

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  • Pamela

    Thanks for the article, yes it’s painful, but my whole life has been painful. The article was very informative really helped me see me for who I am and what I go through on a daily basis. If I wasn’t ready for the reality I wouldn’t have searched and read the article. I am eager to have a better and happier life.

    Thanks, Shirley

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  • Carl

    I’ll admit a few years ago this article would have depressed me to read, however i have now realized that no matter how much i want to be with a women i can’t connect on an intimate level. I just feel overwhelming anxiety and confusion when it comes to thoughts of romance. The pain and conflict of this repetitious inner monologue has worn me out mentally and emotionally.
    Sometimes it really is better to acquiesce.

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  • Dawna

    I am 31 and have recently learned to put a real name to my life long struggle. After years of misdiagnosis, and obvious trust issues, I’d like to point out that the sensativity level of someone suffering from cptsd has a strong intuition when it comes to misdiagnoses. I mean this in terms of truly naming the demon that holds us prisoner. I am grateful for articles like this because it is far easier to control and heal from an understanding of the problem than spiral into a state of despair and surrender to the unknown. Knowledge is power and hope for us and ultimately leads to peace. I started research a week ago after a violent outburst from a trigger (intense intimacy and the inability to communicate) cost me a healthy relationship.

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  • Tom Ehrhardt

    As a Partner/Spouse to someone with CPTSD I found this information and the way it was presented VERY helpful. I have struggled the past many years trying to figure out (with therapists) what is going on with my wife and why we are suffering in our relationship. I am thoroughly convinced proper and gentle therapeutic approaches to CPTSD can have deeply beneficial impacts. Knowing the SIGNS (which present similar to Disorganized Avoidant Attachment) and other states of mind is very important. Thanks.

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  • Jessica

    Regarding the possible triggering effect of reading this article – I have to say I am in the camp of “I now feel rather hopeless” regarding my chances for obtaining a trusting relationship in the future. I personally don’t consider that “triggering” but definitions vary.

    Shirley, I have also written articles and while I am likely not as prolific as you are, I have been paid for them on occasion as well. I am only noting this because one of the things I sometimes experience is a desire to defend my writing – as opposed to trying to listen and understand where the person offering criticism of it is coming from. So while I get the desire to continue saying “it wasn’t intended to fuel hopelessness”, when you have this proportion of comments saying “it caused me to feel hopeless”, objectively it is not coming across the way you intended.

    To me as a reader, I agree with others that putting the bit about “remaining hopeful” in the opening would be useful. More so though, any kind of additional comments on *why* one would continue to be hopeful in the face of the obstacles listed would be ideal.

    Maybe that is asking too much for what the purpose of the article was supposed to be?

    It sounds like at one point there were additional articles that followed this one, which were supposed to help with readers understanding how to develop the ability to trust. However, they are no longer tied to this article. Perhaps whoever is responsible for site content could link to them within this article?

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  • helena

    the trauma isn’t always as a child and didn’t always by a caregiver. i was in an abusive but non violent relationship and it has taken 20 years for someone to diagnose me.

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  • Ene Bissenbakker Frederiksen

    I need to read the follow-up articles. How is it possible?

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  • Ryan

    Thank you. I know some have commented that this was difficult to read, but for me it was comforting that there is an explanation for the endless pain I’ve experienced and hope of a way through. =]

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  • Nobodys biz

    This whole topic resonates with me so strongly…my late mother was not just a malignant narcissist but borderline as well, and while on the one hand she was the neighborhood gossip and storyteller, at the same time she seemed almost paranoid that some aspect of the way she was perceived in society was going to get past her grasp. I was constantly losing on both ends of the spectrum, at the same time she could be finding me undercritical about my own friends and overly critical of hers, even as I was doing my best not to criticize her friends at all, and any time anytime anything I said failed to satisfy her (which meant anytime I opened my mouth, and I wasn’t allowed to be silent either) it was reported to my father the enabler for whom I was “trying to get my mother upset”. As far as a social life I never was allowed any privacy or even to earn any spending money, and I was kept in boy-only schools most of my life. As things stand sometimes I can sustain some interest from a woman if it all starts with a series of phone calls, but if I try to meet someone first in person it’s rare that I can sustain interest for even a whole minute (I’m not exaggerating), I don’t know how to dress or speak and my emotional quotient is probably zero. I do have a therapist but none of them is prepared to help me or even analyze what the problem is, so if you would be willing to provide me with any help at all I would be eternally grateful, thank you!

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  • Donna Elizabeth

    Thank you for this article. You used a word I rarely see used and it informs all a very difficult aspect to cptsd. Connection. Lack of connection. It’s everything. And, took me years and years to discover because other words and descriptions and diagnosis got front seat. But lack of connection was huge to discover in my life.
    Now I’ll go back and keep reading and reading the comments.

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  • Stumbling Blind

    This has been eye opening. My partner of 10 years threw me out in a rage due to being triggered. In a moment she went from saying I love you ten times a day to I hate you. In hindsight I now see so many warning signs that I should have acted on. She is now isolated, not getting treatment & I fear for her. But I have been cut off. Her family doesn’t seem to grasp how serious her condition is. I’m being told to move on, but I love this person.

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  • C-ptsdSurvivor

    I don’t understand how you can say “it is almost impossible to form and maintain intimate relationships” and then tell us not to lose hope!…it’s such a conradiction to this article and i lost hope reading that 🙁

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  • Victoria Stone

    I found the information in this article to be true yet at the same time not hope inducing at all.Many people suffering with CPTSD have no hope due to these issues.

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  • Anon.

    This article is on point. Please keep it posted. It’s proven to me to be a “TA-DA” moment of revelation and in turn clears the air and sets me free. Over many decades, I have suffered much, and succeeded much upon a surface view of my life. I have “done the work”. Although I continue to heal and grow, I am in a very successful marriage, with wonderful children, I am making friends who are genuine, and have mostly learnt how to be my authentic self around them and with balanced vulnerability learnt how to trust them with my true self. No day or night has been easy, but looking back even 12 months, I have healed, grown and evolved greatly. After a successful international career, I am now pivoting to my true calling as a coach, counselor and healer. Seeing the positive transformation in people and their lives is so rewarding, and talking to people about their gifts and helping them realize their purpose is my happy place. There is hope. There really is. I am living proof of it. Thank you so much for this article. It is the first to give a name to the invisible foe which I have fought so many battles with in the shadows and darkness, and come to know intimately and am now seeing the lighted areas of my self with greater frequency and magnitude as my life and self work progresses. Thank you for your truth. And for awakening me to mine. I wish you the best and thank you.

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  • Sophie

    Hello, I know I have complex PTSD. I always feel on edge, anxious, sleep issues,I am on medication. I struggle with trust issues, difficulty with forming relationships,I feel not good enough , insecure,I have poor social skills. Sometimes I talk they just ignore me completely, like I’m not even there. Keep threatening to throw my stuff away and keep moving it around . My stuff is in boxes but they dislike it’s there taking up space and threaten to get a skip and thro it away.My parents are quite stressful and anxious to be around. They can be quite difficult, sometimes angry , rules and regulations about this and that. I met a therapist once she told me Iam hypervlienct. There isn’t much help on the NHS in the UK. You have to go private to get any support or help. I am just sick and tired of having a miserable family that criticizes and wears my energy down. It’s so draining. Always about a problem, about them and their life. Why there so unhappy about everything and nothing you do will be good enough or make them happy. Exhausting standards aI can never live up to.

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  • Tina

    Although highly triggering it making me incredibly sad for my future. I learned more in this one article that I have known my whole life which is now 60. The last few years have been a nonstop cycle of triggers for both PTSD, and C- PTSD. Which came first the chicken or the egg? I seem to have gotten worse instead of better which is lead to losing family, friends, long-term isolation and violent marriage… Yes, a narcissist, alcoholic gambler drugs in the past, chronic lying cheating… And no self-worth to pick myself up And start a life somewhere else beings I have no income . At my age and the cost of living and rent… There’s nothing out there that would pay me to survive on my own… However, in spite of the doom and gloom… The article was incredibly insightful for some thing I’ve never been able to put a finger on, I have been told over and over that I do not heart of love… Now I know it’s true.

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  • Lizet

    I am more the ‘shut-down’ type. But it feels like there’s always someone on your radar, picking you out. Come across those rescuers to emotional abuse you again to gaslit you, not accept your dreams and goals, crosses boundaries. And because of overlapping with narcissistic abuse, your nervous system is triggered in that same PTSD again, i shut down, until i no longer can take the beat and do ‘reactive abuse aka self defense.

    Although i known the sign, it is always a hard line and wound deep inside you.

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  • Chris

    For me it’s like iron armor, a wall between me and the human world. No one can get in and I cannot get out. I lived like this for 54 years. My marriage is a contract much like a financial one, there is no love, no intimacy, no trust and my partner seems fine with it. We never talk about intimate things, or feeling and thoughts, I cannot take emotions, they make me turn cruel beyond measure, I dont want to hurt, so I stay silent. The only good thing in my life is my child, I managed to cut the cycle of abuse and gave him all the love, respect, closeness, warmth and recognition I never had. He is healthy, both physically and mentally , he has a healthy relationship with a lovely healthy girl. For me, I guess there is no hope once you spend 54 years living in a parallel world you cannot return. So I just stay where I am, I’m used to it, I stay silent, I don’t hurt those close to me (son and partner) the rest are free to play with and destroy, that’s how I keep my inner sadist in check.

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  • Carmen

    This has been very triggering for me and I am here to learn as much as I can. I am a 70 year old survivor w childhood CPtsd with disassociation. Years Sexually assaulted by my mother’s boyfriend, mentally and physically abused by her. I am barely scratching the surface of my traumas. Thanks for this article. Keep as is.
    CLR

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